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Using the Same Harp

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Sat, 11/24/2012 - 10:10
cloud
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Hello, im just starting and went through the beginning lessons.

The only harp I have is hohner 560/20 C special 20, these lessons are in other key harps.

I dont plan on buying other harps, so can I learn with the harp I have ?

thanks
Godbless

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Sat, 11/24/2012 - 21:05
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Bat, Ball, and Glove - need 'em all to play the game

You've run up against one of the realities of the diatonic harmonica. People play songs in more than one key, but each harmonica is designed to play in only one key, so to be in the game you need harmonicas in several keys.

It is possible to hear something played in another key on a different key of harmonica, and then figure out how to play the same pattern using a completely different set of notes on a C-harp, but this is a sophisticated skill that will make your learning curve much steeper.

You say you don't plan to buy harmonicas in more than one key. I'm wondering why.

If you simply don't want to commit to more harmonicas until you know that you want go all the way into playing blues harmonica, this is a self-deating approach. It's like saying you want to play baseball and buying a bat but refusing to buy a ball or a glove.

If you simply can't afford to sink cash into several Special 20s at something like $30 each, then one alternative would be to buy a prepackaged set of inexpensive harps in several popular keys, such as the Hohner Piedmont Blues. This at least gives you the keys you'll need. The harps aren't any great shakes - you'll definitely notice the difference, but you'll at least have the tools you need. Later, as money comes available, you can upgrade to better harps one at a time.

if you feel that you should be able to play in all keys on a C harmonica, that isn't how blues harmonica works. At least not all the way. Most of the blues you'll hear played on a C harmonica will be in the key of G (or second position). Some of what you hear will be played in D (third position) or in C (first position).

But let's take that example of a song played in D. The most common harmonica key for playing in D is a G-harp. And the things you can do on a G-harp sound different from what you can do on a C-harp - each is unique, and one can't duplicate the other. So you need that G-harp to make the characteristic blues sounds that you hear when the great players lay down classic harmonica plicks in the key of D. For more on this, read up on harmonica positions, and listen to examples of players where the key and position of harmoncia are known. After awhile you'll start to pick up on the unique character of each and appreciate why you need different keys of harmo to make those sounds.

As for using a C-harp to play in the keys of, say, E or A, it's possible but requires an advanced level of technique and is a path that used in jazz, requiring an approach completely different from that employed in the blues idiom.

You can find books, such as my "Blues Harmonica For Dummies," that allow you to do everything on a C harmonica. But the rich content on this site is huge treasure or you to enjoy and learn from, and if a few different keys of harmonica are needed to unlock the treasure chest, I'd say that those keys are worth the price of admission.

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Sun, 11/25/2012 - 12:47
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Thank-you for your honesty,

Thank-you for your honesty, I guess this site is not for me.
I will find another one that will teach me with the harmonica that I have after my trial period is up.

I'm not looking to spend a ton of money just to learn how to play the harmonica as im not going to be playing in a band.

God Bless
Michael

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Mon, 11/26/2012 - 10:46
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I will however go through the

I will however go through the site during the trail period.

I do believe that there's things I can learn despite the lessons being in different keys.
I'm not giving up on the site just yet, I don't have other key harps but that doesn't mean I cant learn I few things.

and while I don't plan on spending a bunch of money on equipment while I'm getting used to the harp, in general it would be nice to have other key harps.

God Bless

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Mon, 11/26/2012 - 14:37
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Possibly try this

Not a perfect solution but with some software that is out there (some of it free -eg Audacity) that wil adjust tempo and key, you could convert the MP3's to C (if first position lesson), G (if 2nd position lesson) or even D (if third). It won't give you the video's of David's lessons in the right key but at least you could get the ideas from his video lessons, and then play along wth the MP3's using the lesson notes on your C harmonica. This might work for you to keep at the lessons until you expand your 'stable' (assuming you would want to continue.

Might be worth considering.

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Mon, 11/26/2012 - 15:32
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What Winslow is writing is of

What Winslow is writing is of course true!
What Hank is writing is a nice workaround for the time being, at least until you're convinced that harmonica is THE instrument for you AND if you want the play blues music.
For most of the lessons on this site you'll need only a few different keys: C, A, G, D.
If I recall correctly only these keys are used in the beginners lessons which can keep you busy for a year.
And keep in mind, for the price of 1 gitar, 1 piano, 1 trumpet, 1 'whatever' you can buy lots of harmonica's!

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Fri, 11/30/2012 - 11:15
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thanks everyone for your

thanks everyone for your reply's, I love the harmonica I've always picked it up and messed with it from time to time so there is no deciding if harp is for me or not.

I've always had older ones that my grandparents played to mess with but they just aren't playing the way they used to , I just recently bought one which was the C harp.

As of right now I'm really playing more now than just messing with it, so thanks again for your posts.
I'm really not interested in blues, but rather Christian with a bluesy soul type sound if that makes any sense.

Peace
God Bless

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