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Forums :: Ask Harp Tech Expert Kinya Pollard

The un-tunable reed story

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Mon, 12/18/2023 - 11:39
Angel Georgiev
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Hello Kinya,

 

I have been strugling to tune one of my harps. so I need your advice on what approach I could use to determine the issue.

The problem I have experienced is with Octave tunning a C harp. Specificaly the 7 blow.

Even though I have the 4 and 7 blow tuned at plecisely 0C the octave keeps beeting, so I have tried increasing breath strenght trying to figure out if I should tune the 7 blow up or down...I have done this so many times and still the reeds seem to go spontaneously in and out of sync nomater how hard I try. I have the same issue with the 7-10 octave so I have narrowed down the problem to the 7 blow...but what exactly can be wrong with the 7 blow?? It does not seem going flat permanently so it can't be worn off...

I have tuned a few of my harps already...sure they will go out of tune with time, but this one I could never get in tune.

Would you have any suggestions to what I can be looking at?

Thanks!

 

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Tue, 12/19/2023 - 11:19
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Harp Tech Kinya...
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BLOW reeds are particularly troublesome

Hi Angel, good to hear from you.

It appears that you had checked off all the boxes for troubleshooting, especially comparing your breath (and embouchure) with other (Make, Model) harmonicas of the same key.

BLOW reeds are particularly troublesome, because our breath's aspiration, condensation, saliva and temperature impact (weigh down) the stability of the tuning.

My best practices are:

  1. to minimize moisture build up on the reed, make efforts to match the reed temperatue with your mouth temperature (heating pad works good)
  2. immediately after blowing, remove the moisture off the reed with air (e.g. small capacity air compressor used by air brush artists), before tuning
  3. removing the Octave "beat" by listening is a good practice; however, I find the Peterson iStroboSoft app (Apple iPhone, iPad only), with the "Octave" adder invaluable. With the 5 columns of note degrees (fundamentals) displayed side-by-side, it makes it easier to isolate the troublemaking reed ;o)
  4. if you can not tune your BLOW reeds after 2~3 attempts--STOP--allow the reeds and your nerves to settle down. Reeds are made of spring metal and don't appreciate being messed with.

Having laid all this "stuff" out for you--at the end of the day--finding a consistently, perfectly tuned harmonica is sort like hunting down an unicorn, you will spend more time chasing and less time enjoying your music ;o)

Your HARPSMITH, Kinya

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Tue, 12/19/2023 - 18:16
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Angel Georgiev
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Perfect and thorough answer

Perfect and thorough answer as always!

Thank you, Kinya!

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Tue, 12/19/2023 - 18:50
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Be well Angel! Your

Be well Angel!

Your HARPSMITH, Kinya

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