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Temperature Analysis Part 2

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Sat, 09/27/2014 - 06:02
SmokeJS
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You and Joe T. have a very clear conversation about the chorus form used in the 5th chorus. My understanding is because bar 10 deviates so much from bar 2 you agree to call the chorus form A A1 B. But it's labelled A A1 A2 on the written music. Was the Joe video a correction and should I relabel my copy? Thanks!

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Sat, 09/27/2014 - 18:21
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David Barrett
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I thought about that as well, but I decided to keep it. My reasoning is that there's room for interpretation. When I first wrote the song, my thought is that it was close enough to be thought of as A2... to me, the day that I wrote it. Then, with Joe it seemed more like a B. Both are valid viewpoints. I developed the Chorus Form analysis system as a general guideline for soloists to analyze what came before them and how they too can use it, but in the end, music is both art and science, so it's good to explore different interpretations. I'm usually a pretty concrete guy in the way that I approach my teaching, but in this case I like the ambiguity. I hope this makes sense.

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Sun, 09/28/2014 - 08:04
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Fills

Your answer makes perfect sense. Chorus forms seem like a method to analyze something which isn't often analyzed in a way that can be written down, passed along, and studied.

An example of analysis is fills. If I do A with a fill for bars 1-4, then B for bars 5-6, and then for some musical reason I want a fill for bars 7-8 but reuse the fill from bars 3-4 I've actually changed the chorus form as I now have repetition. So my first 4 bars became one long A and overall I have an A B/A (C) chorus form. But thinking about this in the moment would be a bit ridiculous. This is more about after the fact analysis. But what's intersting is the more I work with this and play it the more intuitive it becomes. Your chorus form approach seems to be greater than the sum of its parts. Can't wait to see where all of this takes me down the road.

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Sun, 09/28/2014 - 17:22
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Excellent example of the fills idea. The goal of your training is to know where the "yes" and "no" point are. "Yes" I'm going repeat, or "No" I'm moving away. This becomes intuitive over time, as your example illustrates. Well done.

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