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overdraws

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Tue, 08/18/2020 - 07:27
R3Dz
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Hello David, 

 

I'm searching for information on overdraws. My harp ninja states there are overdraws on hole 7 - 8 - 9 - 10. Apparently these can all lower 1 half step from the draw note. I've tried the draw bend technique and nothing comes out (not even sound lol).

 I'm starting to think there's a catch here somewhere. My harp is gapped pretty dang tight and I can easily pop overblows on hole 1-4-5-6-7 ( haven't really tried the others but I'm sure they're there). So I've been going throught the bending study on the site for overblows and I can't find anything on overdraws except the passing mention here and there but nobody discusses how to access them. Even in the later lessons I see a lot of OB (overblows) but next to no OD (overdraw). 

Could it be the overdraw is achieved by blow bending past the regular bends on the 7-8-9-10? or is it really a draw bend like on the lower end of the harp ? 

I feel like my harp is set well enough that it should be able to access these notes if they exist. 

 

Could you help point me in the right direction ?

 

Regards, 

Chris

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Tue, 08/18/2020 - 07:38
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David Barrett
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Hello Chris. All bending

Hello Chris.

All bending activates the other reed in the slot a half step above its natural vibrating pitch.

When you play a 4 draw bend, it's the blow reed vibrating a half step above its vibrating pitch when in the full depth of the bend. Because the blow reed is lower in pitch than the 4 draw, we hear that the pitch goes down. We also get a smooth slide. So... D to Db bend is really a D to C# bend (4+ C sounding upwards to C#).

When doing an overdraw, the same thing happens.

You play the 7 overdraw and it's the 7+ sounding a half step above its natural pitch. Since the blow reeds are higher in pitch than the draw, you'll hear it sound higher than your 7 draw (and there is no smooth slide). So... 7 B turns into 7+'s C#.

With all this said, your goal is to tune your mouth higher, not lower, in pitch when you do an overdraw (or overblow).

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Tue, 08/18/2020 - 09:54
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R3Dz
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OMG this makes so much sense

OMG this makes so much sense ! So to access the overdraw is the same as the overblow in the sense that the overblow needs a draw bent shape on exhale, the overdraw needs a blow bend shape on inhale. Tune to the pitch, it's so obvious now.

 

Thanks a lot, I'll try that tonight. This is insane, if I can manage this I've effectively accessed all the notes my harp can make ! 

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Tue, 08/18/2020 - 10:07
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David Barrett
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My pleasure R3Dz... it's a

My pleasure R3Dz... it's a tough subject to wrap one's head around.

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