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loop 10 of each chorus--make MP3 learning easier

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Fri, 09/10/2010 - 11:58
Mike Bronny
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> Hi David
> I am having difficulty learning the middle and ends of songs. I would like to suggest an improvement, that would greatly help me and other players.
> If a song has 7 choruses. Then I usually learn the first three great, using the MP3 tracks but the rest are difficult because I have to listen through the first tracks that I already know again. So here is what I suggest if a song has 7 choruses, then make 7 separate MP3 elements e.g. chorus1, chorus2 etc.
> If I was having issues with chorus 6 because it has a tricky run, then I could then take chorus 6 and recorded that 10 times on my mp3 player and now I could keep playing the same chorus over and over till I get it.
>
> What do you think of this idea?
>
> It would mean a little work for you to split up the MP3 into different
> choruses. I would recommend 10 loop of each chorus. I am sure players
> would improve quickly using this method. You would then record mp3
> loop10 chorus 6 onto mp3 and learn each chorus seperatly
>
> Regards Mike
>

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Fri, 09/10/2010 - 16:43
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hank stefaniak
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Hi Mike - I can relate to

Hi Mike - I can relate to what you are saying and these are two solutions I came up with for my needs.

1 - I use Amazing Slowdowner software and it lets me select a portion of song/backing track and repeats it as long as I want. I just 'mark' the desired starting and finishing point. I;m also playing around with a piece of software called "Transcribe" that lets me do the same thing - its more visual as well.

2. I also use Wiretap Studio to record stuff off the internet and my hard drive. I just start it when I want to record that particular chorus of a song. I can also select a section of a song track and export it to my desktop.

We all learn in different ways so I don't know if any of these help but thought I'd share my experiences in case it's of any help. Good luck with it.

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Sat, 09/11/2010 - 01:30
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Expert Winslow Yerxa
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Looping to your custom needs

Looping is something you can do with smaller parts of a tune - a single lick, for instance. The Amazing Slowdowner may do this (I don't know, as I haven't used it). You could also download Audacity for free. This does allow you to isolate very small portions of audio.

While it would be nice to get recordings in pre-sized portions, it's a lot of work for the producer, and may or may not meet your specific needs. Using available software allows you as an individual to target precisely what you want to work on, though it does mean additional work on your part.

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Sat, 09/11/2010 - 01:43
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harp2swing
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Buy one of these

http://cgi.ebay.com/AKAI-U-40-Riff-O-Matic-Phrase-Sampler_W0QQitemZ12061...

Hey Mike, there's one of these on ebay. I have had one for awhile now and find it invaluable.
It can sample a whole 12 bar solo or just a couple of notes or even freeze a note your not sure of. It can also slow down the captured phrase to two thirds or half speed (big help for that jason ricci stuff.)
It accelerated my harp learning curve! Cheers

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Sat, 09/11/2010 - 03:46
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robfraser
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another option

Hi Mike

I think the above suggestions are good- a piece of software or equipment that allows you to loop sections of a track to your needs is probably the best answer.

I use "BestPractice" software which I think was suggested on an earlier post somewhere. It's a free download and has loop, slowdown, pitch change, etc. You open a music file from your hard drive or from a CD and apply whatever changes you need. It's easy to use and an excellent practice aid!

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Sat, 09/18/2010 - 18:08
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JuniorWright
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Tascam DR1

I use a digital recorder about the size of an ipod. It is a Tascam DR1. It does everything the computer software does but has the advantage of being portable. It's pricey, but I use it all the time. Because it's a digital recorder it's easy to grab any audio from any device, or even live.

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