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Kinder Anti Feedback- Jon H?

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Wed, 03/17/2010 - 21:49
bob freeze
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I was just wondering if you got one of the units. I have both the "blue box" and a Harp King amp and i think the advice you got earlier was very accurate. You can kill feedback, but I do agree that there is a limiting factor when it comes to tones. That deep "creamy" sound that David demonstrated in his amp video is something that the blue box matched with a bassman can come close to, but I think it always a work in progress. On the other side the issue of being heard on stage becomes much less of a problem with the blue box and totally "leaves the building" if you have a Harp King 6x10.

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Sat, 03/20/2010 - 16:04
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Jon M Harl
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anti-feedback

Personally I don't have an anti-feedback but I do have some friends that do. Jim Johnson has both an Kinder pedal and the 6x10. We've messed around with the pedal on his re-issue bassman and got some killer "Harpking" sound out of it. I haven't tried it with the Masco but I really don't think the Masco is a good fit for a loud amp situation. The other amp I have is a Kalamazoo 2 and that's the same story. I've been saving my pennies for a big amp but I don't know which one I'll get.

I have an interesting story about the harp king. When Dave was over in the Music Tree we all brought a bunch of different amps to test tone. The "King" was one of the amps. As we began to play it at a lower volume the tone wasn't so good but Dave inched the volume up and the tone got better and better. It really kicked in when all the acoustic guitars in the shop began to hum. The thing was so loud that the plate windows in the front of the store were rattling. Makes me wonder what Rod sounds like with two "King's" hooked together!

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Sat, 03/20/2010 - 19:18
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bob freeze
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Rod and two amps

The first time i saw Rod play he was in a "shotgun" room and he was using two 6x10's - you really can't explain that sound. He used my amp at Buddy Guy last summer and he can get tones out of it that escape me. He wrote down what he thought would be good for me (actually in permanent pen on my amp controls) - still can't get the same tones. I have found that if you limit the treble, crank the bass, full on presence, and set the anti-feedback as low as possible with mid-bass cut turned off it starts to develop low tones like a bassman on steriods. It also helps to use delay and oddly enough something that Dennis O. (MR. Mic) sold me and uses himself - a pencil MICRO-VOX unit. I know that mic certainly isn't traditional and I haven't used it with my HK until today, but I plan on using it a lot if it does that well out. You have total use of your hands and can really get some dynamics going.
I am also going to try a Smith 25 that was designed for our lead guitar player hooked up to my bassman and use Kinder blue box along with Danelectro delay
There is no end to it once you set started and no matter what sound you get you think there is something better around the corner.

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Sat, 03/20/2010 - 19:57
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Jon M Harl
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HarpKing

Bob: You're in good company using the same amp as Rod, Rick Estrin, and Dennis Gruenling. They are all tone monsters. I understand that the mic to use with that amp is an Astatic with an MC151 element. I know Fritz Hasenpusch has some great mics that would work.

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