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Forums :: Ask Harp Tech Expert Kinya Pollard

How to set up cleartune

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Mon, 01/29/2018 - 08:28
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Any picture on how to set up cleartune tuner for harmonica?

 

Specially for marine band harmonica that has comporomised tunning what temperament should I choose?

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Thu, 02/01/2018 - 19:30
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Here are the settings that

Here are the settings that work well for me on the Cleartune Chromatic Tuning App:

  • Blow 1 = 0
  • Draw 1 = +2
  • Blow 2 = -8
  • Draw 2 = +1
  • Blow 3 = +1
  • Draw 3 = -8
  • Blow 4 = 0
  • Draw 4 = +2
  • Blow 5 = -8
  • Draw 5 = -8
  • Blow 6 = +1
  • Draw 6 = +3
  • Blow 7 = 0
  • Draw 7 = +3
  • Blow 8 = -8
  • Draw 8 = +2
  • Blow 9 = +1
  • Draw 9 = -8
  • Blow 10 = 0
  • Draw 10 = +3

Shown as a C diatonic harmonica

Try out this recipe for Compromised Tuning. I think you will find it satisfying for almost all type of music.

Your Harpsmith, Kinya

 

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Fri, 02/02/2018 - 07:14
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Thank you very much. Please

Thank you very much. Please be patient with me . Right now I do not want to tune my harmonica I simply want to know exactly

what my harmonica tunning value is and I am going to document all my 12 keys newly purchased harmonica tunnings

so after a few months I can check to see if they have changed.

 

I am sorry I am a newbie 

 

Do I make sense?   

 

If so seeing that a marine band harmonica is not equal temperemant should I not change the

tempermant before seeing the correct tunning?

 

In your screenshot I see you have chosen equal temperemant  Why?

 

 

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Mon, 02/05/2018 - 08:52
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Tunings

ibrothers we've all been where you are. No worries. I the tuning recipe above the "+" and the "-" are deviations from zero. So the equal temprement just sets all the notes to zero deviation and the meter shows what the acutal deviation is. So Blow 2 is -8.  So that's 8 cents flat of zero. For what you want to do now. Document the tuning, that woud be a gret match. Don't forget as you practice more and become more proficient your embouchure will change. Keep that in mind when you are keeping track of your numbers.

 

Good luck......Mike

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Mon, 02/05/2018 - 09:15
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Thanks Mike I did not

Thanks Mike I did not understand :)  OK one more question isn't there any way that I do not need to use my mouth to blow

so I do not have to worry about my future embouchure change ?

Any cheap , small tool that I can use for this purpose so it produces steady blow , draw ?  

 

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Mon, 02/05/2018 - 15:37
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Cheap small tool

You may be over thinking this. You are wanting to do precise when accurate will suffice. What I mean to say is you are wanting to draw a line with an extra fine pen when a #2 pencil will work just fine. There may come a time when you'll want the extra fine pen, but maybe not just yet. If a C tuned to +0 were to drop to -5 it might be anoying but not a reed threatening deal. If a C were to drop to a B you may have issues. That's where Harp Ninja is so cool you can watch as you mess with your emboucher and watch it change. You can do the same thing with Cleartune but Harp Ninja is a bit less sesitive and mainly shows the more dramatic changes. Hopefully Kinya will be alog and he can explain it much better than I. He is after all the master. I hope that made a little sense. I was kind of wandering.

Maybe I led you astray with my emboucher comment. You technique will get better and the cents deviation may change a bit from what you originally write down. A "C" will still be a C but you may just change a few cents here and there. Also The reeds themselves will change naturally as the get broken in. 

relax play and most of all have fun

Good luck......Mike

 

Oh and BTW Peg Leg Sam used his nose to play on occasion. ;)

https://youtu.be/Km7ghyvnO8Q

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Wed, 02/07/2018 - 20:15
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Thanx Mike for your

Thanx Mike for your input--well done.

Mastering the nuances of the diatonic harmonica will take a life time, so don't quit your day job!

Tinkering with the mechanics of the harmonica should also be enjoyable as well. My recommendation is to acquire a bunch of free or low cost "mess around" harmonicas to learn Harp Tech work. Your out of the box harmonicas are sufficiently set up, so that you can trust the factory set up (and tuning), and get on with the business of actually learning How-to-Play the Harmonica ;o)

Especially with new diatonic harmoncia players--with perfect pitch--hearing themselves play out of key can be disarming. If that is you, I recommend trying "solo tuned" Chromatic Harmonicas. You never have to worry about bending techniques--learn the note layout of the first four holes (that's 16 notes with the button), and repeat the pattern for each octave. The 12 hole Chromatic Harmonicas have three octaves (48 reeds/notes), and 16 hole harmonicas have four octaves (64 reeds/notes).

So many cool things to try and learn and so little time!

Your Harpsmith, Kinya

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