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Forums :: Ask Harp Tech Expert Kinya Pollard

Garys Blues 5 Draw reed blown

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Wed, 09/13/2017 - 23:32
John S
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Well David did warn us not to destroy our harps when practicing the 4/5 draw bend in Garys Blues. Well I have just done that with my new Special 20, five days old. I use SP 20 for practice and keep the Manji M20 as playing harps. So off to the music shop to replace my SP20 G harp. Happened to bump into the Hohner rep who was not sypathetic at all. I was able to order a new set of plates delivered from Germany cheaper than what he offered in Australia. Like the A that I blew (5) the reed had very clear makings from factory tuning, almost identical. Who said hand/manual tuning was best.

So the cunundrum for me is this. The 5 reed does not "know" that there is not a full or half step bend so why should there be a greater inclination to damage the 5 than any other draw bend reed, say the 4 or 6. Its flexibility would be on a par with any other reeds. This reed has broken whilst bending in conjunction with the 4. What am I missing. Just interested. Thanks

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Sun, 09/17/2017 - 07:22
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Hi John, I like your

Hi John, I like your inquisitive mind.

You are correct, the 5 does not know it can't be bent down to another pitch--it is simply a reed built with the same specifications as the other family of reeds. I have found the overachieving player really does over arch the 5 draw reed. Check this out:

  • On the G harmonica, the 5 draw reed = C
  • When I look across the spectrum of diatonic harmonicas, I can find that identical C reed on the blow side of numerous harmonicas, including: Ab on the 5+, Db on the 3+, F on the 3+
  • Most players have a general knowledge about how hard the 3+ reed on any harmonica is taxed, so logic would dictate that this very same reed (i.e. C) should be replaced more often than it's identical twin reed located on the 5 draw of a G harmonica--but this is not the case.
  • Another example would be a Country or Melody Maker tuned harmonica--whereas the 5 draw has been raised 1/2 step (this would be a C# on the G harmonica). With the blow reed = B and the draw reed = C#, you can now play a 1/2 step bend (C). The player in this instance tends to regulate his passionate playing, and consequently preserve the 5 draw reed.

Your Harpsmith, Kinya

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Sun, 09/17/2017 - 13:49
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Great explanation

Kinya many thanks for taking the time for a very comprehensive reply. I enjoy your tutorials and reference them often. 

Many thanks 

John

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Mon, 09/18/2017 - 19:45
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use a piano

If you use the schematic for the C harmonica you'll notice across the blow notes it reads: CEGCEGCEGC. The 5 blow is an E. Looking at the C schematic for the draw notes it reads: DGBDFABDFA. The 5 draw is an F. That means these two notes are 1/2 step apart. The 7 hole is the same drill they are the B and C. For you to realize a bend there needs to be a whole step between the blow and draw. 

Why? Simply when bending you draw on the 4 and with skill you create an embochure that begins to activate the draw note. But during the bend, the blow note that is activated creating the difference in pitch. In the case of the 4 hole you're bending the upper C down a 1/2 step. It's the opposite on the blow bends. To make a long story short there is only a 1/4 step between the E and F. So you can get somewhat of a bend but not a full bend. Most players want to milk the 5 draw for all the blue note they can get. They usually put too much force on the reed trying to get that invisible note.

Two things. 1. Reference a piano keyboard. If you don't have a piano there are some really nice apps. 2. Use Harp Ninja and try to get the bent notes in tune with just your embouchure and not wind pressure. (an advanced skill that a lot of players don't master.}

Play Softer... Your harp will love it and you'll have better tone.

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Wed, 09/20/2017 - 06:29
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Thank you Sensei John! Kinya

Thank you Sensei John!

Kinya

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