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baby fat

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Mon, 12/30/2024 - 15:26
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any body play use baby fat harps ? what you like dislike about them ?

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Mon, 12/30/2024 - 16:00
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Baby fat harps for tone!

On the contrary, I absolutely love them! I had Kinya work on a set for me. What i like most about them is the tone is huge! Kinya equates that to  their compact size and design. I haven't played through any of my custom harps in months, they sound fabulous through all all my mics and amps. these harps are stunning. I don't miss the other notes. Try one! 

 

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Mon, 12/30/2024 - 19:10
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BabyFat

In early 2010, I was inspired to create a harmonica that would better suit my small hands when paired with a bullet mic, with the goal of improving my electric sound (which it did!). I took inspiration from Paul Butterfield’s harmonica style and asked myself, “if Paul never played past hole six, why should I?” My initial prototype (pictured here) was built on the classic Hohner Special 20 platform. I shortened the ABS comb, cover plates, and reed plates by removing #8, #9, and #10, resulting in 2 full octaves. Later models were crafted using Marine Band 1896 reed plates and custom Corian combs by Randy Sandoval.

During a 2012 visit to the Suzuki factory in Hamamatsu, Japan, Andy Just and I had the opportunity to meet with Manji Suzuki. Mr. Suzuki showed interest in my set of HARPSMITH Mag 7 prototype harmonicas (Magnificent 7), which I had brought for that evening's performance, and even played a few of them.

At SPAH in 2019, I discovered that John Hall of Bushman was selling the “new” BabyFat, a seven-hole diatonic harmonica produced in China by KongSheng, one of Suzuki’s contractors.

As Pete observed, the BabyFat harmonica, when properly set up, can be a powerful instrument for producing rich tones.

Your HARPSMITH, Kinya

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Mon, 12/30/2024 - 22:35
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Little harps!

I've always wondered about the Baby Fat. I have the Seydel Big Six in G, A and C, and once in a while while on stage I'll hide one in my mouth, and pull it out and start playing it. The audience reaction is always cool. It's also nice to take one along when going for a walk. Fits in a nice belt case I have for a pocket knife.

So Kinya and wahoo (and everyone else): Any comparison between the Baby Fat and the Big Six? (Other than that the Baby Fat is one hole fatter?)

Of course, when I really want to go tiny, I have an original 1950s Oscar Mayer Wiener Whistle. (See https://www.omwienermobile.com/pressreleases/KH_Wiener_Whistle_History_P... ) It only plays four notes, including two overblows, but actually works for blues in Bb. And is VERY portable.

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Tue, 12/31/2024 - 13:53
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BabyFat vs Big Six

Hey Rob, super cool reference to the Oscar Mayer Wiener Whistle!

The Seydel Big Six harmonica was the brain child of Dr. Bertram Becher. When I asked him why he did not include hole #7, his response was, "Paul Butterfield did not play past hole #6". To that, my reply was, "HEY--that's my line"! After a chuckle of recognition, I mentioned that with just one more hole you would have built a harmonica with two complete octaves. Sheepishly, Bertram responded with, "It didn't occur to me at the time".

The extra hole aside, there are two factors that differentiates the Big Six from the BabyFat. 

Big Six

  1. the Big Six harmonica have Seydel's Stainless Steel reeds. Stainless steel is an extremely tough material (e.g. SpaceX Falcon rockets are clad with SS), making the reeds stiffer than phosphor bronze, translating to a stiffer playing harmonica.
  2. With it's comfortable and easy to clean stainless steel "non-vented" cover plates, arguably this material is the gold standard for most modern harmonica cover plates.

BabyFat

  1. the BabyFat harmonica have KongSheng's Phosphor Bronze reeds (near identical to Kong's friend, Suzuki). These reeds are also similar to the flexible reeds manufactured by Hohner. This translates to a harmonica with rich tones and ease of play.
  2. although the colorful selection of the "non-vented" cover plates makes Key Identification a breeze, for some Players the aluminum material can be uncomfortable--a sort of touching your tongue to a 9 volt battery sensation. This is caused by the phenomennon of combining dissimilar metals together. 

Both harmonicas are extremely affordable, so if you are curious--especially for you bullet mic players--my recommendation is to purchase a harmonica key that represents your serious tone work. Next play a lick or entire song that you can compare your usual harmonica to either the Big Six or BabyFat. Either way, you will feel and hear the difference in TONE.

Your HARPSMITH, Kinya

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Wed, 01/01/2025 - 11:22
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Interesting info, Kinya

Kinya:

Very interesting re how the Big Six didn't end up as a Big 7. (And from time to time playing one of my Big Sixes, I miss that 7th hole.)

And ...

HAPPY NEW YEAR!

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Tue, 01/21/2025 - 12:41
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baby fat

i bought 1 in the key of c and like it . was thinking of picking up a set . thanks

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Fri, 01/24/2025 - 08:23
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Enhanced Baby Fat

Good for you. Keep in mind most (including BabyFat) harmonicas can be HARPSMITH'd for enhanced playing. Interested? Contact me at kinya@harpsmith.com

Your HARPSMITH, Kinya

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