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Stumbling On A Position

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Fri, 12/09/2011 - 05:22
harooki2
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I have been practicing for a country gig, working on some tunes with a C harp and playing cross in 2nd position with the band in G. I'm using some Charlie McCoy recordings, and he must be using overblows for some of the notes on one tune; because I can't hit them (I can't overblow).

In frustration, I picked up a Bb; and I found that I could hit all the notes I need for that tune. Have I found the correct key from another position on the Bb or what? This is what's confusing to me about positions. Depending on the answer to my question, I might understand positions better.

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Fri, 12/09/2011 - 09:08
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What is the specific tune

What is the specific tune you're trying to play?

Charlie McCoy neve uses overblows.

He does use one alternate tuning called Country Tuning, which raises Draw 5 one semitone. This gives you a full major scale in second position, instead of a flat 7th, which is great for blues but sounds wrong in tunes that use a pure major scale.

But it sounds like you're dealing with the opposite - a minor scale. In G, the minor scale has a B-flat instead of a B natural, and an E-flat instead of an E natural. And guess what--a Bb harp gives you a scale that includes Bb and Eb (and G).

When you play in G on a Bb harp:

-- You're in fourth position.

--Your home note is found in Draw 6, Draw 10, and Draw 3 bent down 2 semitones. That lower home note is awkward to sustain in tune, so fourth position is often played in the higher ranges of the harp.

I don't know of Charlie using fourth position, but that doesn't mean he hasn't,

However, I do know for sure that he uses fifth position. This would be E on a C harp, or G on an Eb Harp. In fifth:

-- Blow 2 is your main home note; also Blow 5 and Blow 8.

-- Draw 2 and Draw 3 are the other notes of the minor I chord, and they both bend, making it a cool minor position. Draw 4 also makes a good wailing note.

-- Your only real "avoid note" is BLow 5 (and Blow 9), which is a flat 2nd degree

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Fri, 12/09/2011 - 09:32
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Thanks. The specific tune is

Thanks. The specific tune is "Crazy."

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Fri, 12/09/2011 - 11:46
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It's second position on a country tuned harp

Charlie's own record is played in second position, in the key of Bb (Major) on an Eb harp in Country Tuning (Draw 5 raised from Ab to A natural). No overblows, but a lot of very precise draw bends in Holes 2 and 3.

If your band is playing it in G, you could take a C harp and tune Draw 5 up from F to F#, or get a country-tuned harp (You could also use a Lee Oskar Melody Maker in G, which would also eliminate the need for some of the Hole 3 bends.)

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Fri, 12/09/2011 - 17:43
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Thanks for the help.

Thank you so much, Winslow, for your help.

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